Race Rules

Resources for Race Rules and Judging.

 

Rules and Judging

Please see the article here:
http://metaversesailing.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/glam-judging/

and the Forum thread here:
http://slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3264

We have a shortage of sailors willing or able to volunteer as judges for the current Fizz Cup 2009 oand other regatta.
 This is an important issue as we all try to expand sailing options and increase the number of sailors who are able to act as officials at races.

There are several potential solutions to the judging problem. Probably the most straightforward is to organize a few sessions, perhaps even developed a standardized ‘class’ to provide information and answer questions for sailors who are interested in getting involved and helping out.

This page is an attempt to organize and list some of the resources available. Hopefully we can expand the list pretty quickly and incorporate everyone else’s ideas on how we could most effectively (and least painfully) teach the sailing rules and judging procedures.

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People with interest and knowledge about SL Racing and Rules

These names were copied mostly from Rules discussions where people posted and past judging lists.
Please help add more names so we can use the list as a resource for judging and teaching.

Hal Burnstein
M1sha Dallin
Oliphant Ming
Marktwain White
Armchair Binder
Myrrh Massiel
Bea Woodget
Francois Jacques
Epicurus Emmons
LDeWell Hawker
Cory Copeland
Hans Zinnemann
Stuart Choche
Tory Micheline
Chaos mandelbrot
Julia Ceres
kentrock messmer
taku raymaker
liv leigh
disisme misfit
ahjep Kattun
Gemma Vickovic
Aleister Biondetti
Soro Dagostino

2009 ISAF Race Rules Changes

IASF RACE RULES (highlighting new changes)

Videos on Rules changes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJTAcrx1luo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaj_ftPzMqQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8lU17QyIw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZUhHEXjE0&feature=related

Fizz Cup 2009 Rules

http://bea.woodget.free.fr/LesGLENANS/FizzCup2009/Notice_of_Race-2009FizzCup.pdf

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Chapter 4: RULES

We suggest the FIZZ CUP RDs and umpires apply rules as described and commented in the “Racing Rules of Sailing in Second Life – RRSSL “(Thank you Armchair)More on this topic here: http://slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2226&highlight=rrssl 

 

10. Starboard Rights: Starboard boats have Right-Of-Way over Port Tack Boats
11. Leeward Rights: Leeward boats have Right-of-Way over Windward Boats
13. A boat has no Right-of-Way while tacking
16. When a Right-of-Way boat changes course, it shall give the other boat room to keep clear.
18. When overlapped, inside boats have Right-of-Way at marks, NOT including starting line marks.
19. A boat approaching an obstruction has Right-of-Way to tack or gybe.
Race Guidelines:
1. A Protest must be shouted.
2. A skipper that accepts a protest from another skipper shall acknowledge the acceptance of the foul by sailing clear of other boats and doing a 360 degree circle as soon as reasonably possible. A skipper who does not accept a protest can settle the protest immediately following the race with a protest hearing.
3. AVOIDING CONTACT: A boat shall avoid contact with another boat if reasonably possible.
However, a right-of-way boat or one entitled to room
(a) need not act to avoid contact until it is clear that the other boat is not keeping clear or giving room, and
(b) shall not be penalized under this rule unless there is contact that causes damage or injury.
(c) For purposes of right-of-way rulings, “damage” shall only consist of incidents
which fuse prims, eject crew, lose the race wind, disrupt physics continuity, or impair the functionality of a boat’s script sufficiently to require an object reset.
4. Do not edit your boat after raising your sail for a race.
5. Do not touch (i.e. edit) another person’s boat.
6. The race director will appoint a committee to hear any unresolved protests at time of the hearing. If a committee is not available to hear the protest then a hearing will be held publicly as soon as possible with results being tentative until such ruling.
7. At the discretion of the race director, attempts to “game” the rules can lead to disqualification. Gaming the rules is loosely defined as using the ruleset to violate the fundamental purpose of the ruleset, which is to create an environment where The purpose of rules are to keep boats sailing competitively and “safely”, not provide opportunities to win by other means than excellence in sailing skills.
8. Boats in a race shall raise sail before -1:45 minutes are left on the clock and not moor until after the race is completed. The skipper who activates the clock may be given minor leeway on this rule if he/she has difficulty starting the clock, getting in boat, and raising sail.
9. Good sportsmanship is more highly regarded that the ability to win at any cost !!! A boat and her owner shall compete in compliance with recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Penalty: potential reprimand by the race committee.An Explanation of the Rules:
RIGHT-OF-WAY: A boat has right of way when another boat is required to keep clear of it.10. Starboard boats have Right-Of-Way over Port Tack Boats
ISAF Rule 10: “ON OPPOSITE TACKS: When boats are on opposite tacks, a port-tack boat shall keep clear of a starboard-tack boat.”
Starboard boat= Sail hanging over the Port (Left) side of the boat with Wind coming from the Starboard (Right) side of the boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTyd1bJsZ4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fltYaJeChlY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOd1j47eCN011. Leeward boats have Right-of-Way over Windward Boats
A boat is Leeward up to head to wind (directly into the wind) at wind=0
ISAF Rule 11: “ON THE SAME TACK, OVERLAPPED-When boats are on the same tack and overlapped, a windward boat shall keep clear of a leeward boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ6uJuE2C_M13. A boat has NO Right-of-Way while tacking
ISAF Rule 13: “WHILE TACKING: After a boat passes head to wind, she shall keep clear of other boats until she is on a close-hauled course. During that time rules 10, 11, and 12 do not apply. If two boats are subject to this rule at the same time, the one on the other’s port side or the one astern shall keep clear.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fltYaJeChlY16. When a Right-of-Way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear.
If a boat is attempting to give you Right-of-Way, then a Protest may be unnecessary.
ISAF Rule 15 “ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY When a boat acquires right of way, she shall initially give the other
boat room to keep clear, unless she acquires right of way because of the other boat’s actions.”
ISAF Rule 16.1 “CHANGING COURSE: When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfYBXu_BKow

18. When overlapped, inside boats have Right-of-Way at marks, NOT including starting line marks.
ISAF Rule 18 “ROUNDING AND PASSING MARKS AND OBSTRUCTIONS:
In rule 18, room is room for an inside boat to round or pass between an outside boat and a mark or obstruction, including room to tack or gybe when either is a normal part of the manoeuvre.
18.1 When This Rule Applies
Rule 18 applies when boats are about to round or pass a mark they are required to leave on the same side, or an obstruction on the same side, until they have passed it. However, it does not apply
(a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or
(b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack.
18.2 Giving Room; Keeping Clear
(a) OVERLAPPED – BASIC RULE
When boats are overlapped the outside boat shall give the inside
boat room to round or pass the mark or obstruction, and if the
inside boat has right of way the outside boat shall also keep clear.
Other parts of rule 18 contain exceptions to this rule.
(b) OVERLAPPED AT THE ZONE
If boats were overlapped before either of them reached the twolength zone and the overlap is broken after one of them has reached it, the boat that was on the outside shall continue to give the other boat room. If the outside boat becomes clear astern or overlapped inside the other boat, she is not entitled to room and shall keep clear.
(c) NOT OVERLAPPED AT THE ZONE
If a boat was clear ahead at the time she reached the two-length
zone, the boat clear astern shall thereafter keep clear. If the boat
clear astern becomes overlapped outside the other boat, she shall
also give the inside boat room. If the boat clear astern becomes
overlapped inside the other boat, she is not entitled to room. If the
boat that was clear ahead passes head to wind, rule 18.2(c) no
longer applies and remains inapplicable.
(d) CHANGING COURSE TO ROUND OR PASS
When after the starting signal rule 18 applies between two boats
and the right-of-way boat is changing course to round or pass a
mark, rule 16 does not apply between her and the other boat.
(e) OVERLAP RIGHTS
If there is reasonable doubt that a boat obtained or broke an
overlap in time, it shall be presumed that she did not. If the outside
boat is unable to give room when an overlap begins, rules
18.2(a) and 18.2(b) do not apply.
18.3 Tacking at a Mark
If two boats were approaching a mark on opposite tacks and one of them completes a tack in the two-length zone when the other is fetching the mark, rule 18.2 does not apply. The boat that tacked
(a) shall not cause the other boat to sail above close-hauled to avoid her or prevent the other boat from passing the mark, and
(b) shall give room if the other boat becomes overlapped inside her, in which case rule 15 does not apply.
18.4 Gybing
When an inside overlapped right-of-way boat must gybe at a mark or obstruction to sail her proper course, until she gybes she shall sail no farther from the mark or obstruction than needed to sail that course.
18.5 Passing a Continuing Obstruction
While boats are passing a continuing obstruction, rules 18.2(b) and
18.2(c) do not apply. A boat clear astern that obtains an inside overlap is entitled to room to pass between the other boat and the obstruction only if at the moment the overlap begins there is room to do so. If there is not, she is not entitled to room and shall keep clear.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGAkOEsSTe0
19. A boat approaching an obstruction has Right-of-Way to tack or gybe. 

Teaching Aids

http://www.ukhalsey.com/RulesQuiz/quiz_list.asp

http://rrsstudy.blogspot.com/

http://www.ukhalsey.com/LearningCenter/index.asp

SLSAILING.ORG Threads on Rules

M1sha:    http://slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2515

Armchair: http://slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2515

ORG Discussion posts with lots of links

 

JANE FOSSETT Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: FIZZ CUP RULES AND JUDGING

I think rules and judging are potentially important in major races. That’s particularly true when the competition builds in intensity for several weeks and everything depends on the outcome of a few final races.I’m repeating the Tako Cup Rules below to start a discussion about how they should be modified and how judging should progress in the upcoming Fizz series.From MTW:Racing Rules for the 2007 USS-SL TAKO CUP
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The Tako Cup will be governed by a set of FUNADAMENTAL RULES that are used nearly uniformly in Second Life sailboat races. Additionally, SIX rules from the ISF 2005-2008 Racing Rules of Sailing will be enforceable by way of formal protest. While the rest of the rules are not formally enforced during the regatta all skippers are ethically bound to sail by all the rules they know. In other words if an experienced skipper violates any of the racing rules of sailing simply because that rule is not protestable in the ACA-SL Cup, that skipper may be deemed to be in violation of the first fundamental rule of sportsmanship. Such action however, will not be sufficient in and of itself to disqualify the skipper in question. The principle behind this position is to encourage good sportsmanship while at the same time keeping the list of protestable actions to a manageable level in a virtual world where boat position is not in all cases known, and where skippers of varying levels of knowlege of the rulebook can compete in a manageable enviroment.
FUNDAMENTAL RULES of SAILBOAT RACING FOR THE TAKO CUP
1. Good sportsmanship is more highly regarded that the ability to win at any cost. A boat and her owner shall compete in compliance with recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Penalty: potential reprimand by the race committee.
2. Do not edit your boat after raising your sail for a race. Penalty: disqualification from race.
3. Do not touch (i.e. edit) another person’s boat. Penalty: disqualification.
4. You are responsible for any passagers you invite on your boat. Any action by a passenger that hinders another boat (including but not limited to dropping objects in the water) will result in disqualification.
5. A skipper who accepts a protest from another skipper shall acknowledge the acceptance by shouting ACCEPT or YES and do a 360 degree turn as soon as reasonably possible. The skipper shall move clear of the fleet and execute a penalty turn. If there is reasonable room the penalty turn should be done before the skipper reaches the next mark. If there isn’t room to safely do a turn before the mark, the skipper shall do a penalty turn soon after passing the mark.
6. A skipper who does not accept a protest shall hail NO. Following the race the issue shall be resolved on the water in the presence of all who care to listen.
7. The race director will apppoint a committee to hear any unresolved protests at time of the hearing. If a committee is not available to hear the protest then a hearing will be held publicly as soon as possible with results being tentative until such ruling.
8. At the discretion of the race director, attempts to “game” the rules can lead to disqualification. Gaming the rules is loosely defined as using the ruleset to violate the fundamental purpose of the ruleset, which is to create an environment where the faster boat will win the race. The pupose of rules for the ACA-SL Cup is to keep boats sailing competitively and “safely”, not provide opportunities to win by other means than excellence in sailing skills.
9. Boats in a race shall raise sail before -1:45 minutes are left on the clock and not moor until after the race is completed. The skipper who activates the clock may be given minor leeway on this rule if he/she has difficulty starting the clock, getting in boat, and raising sail.

PROTESTABLE RULES FROM THE RACING RULES OF SAILING

10. Starboard Rights
11. Leeward Rights
13. No Rights While Tacking
18. Room at Marks
19. Room to Tack at an Obstruction
31. Touching a MarkNote: Judges will not call rules 10,11,13,18 but will adjudicate protests where skippers have protested based on those rules. Judges CAN call protests based on Rules 19 (see below) and rule 31.END OF WORLD (EOW) RULESThere will be two versions of a special End of World Rule (EOW) used for the Tako Cup. The End of the World is a virtual world phenonmenon (i.e. not found in the real world) and thus not covered adequately by ISF rule 19 (Room to Take at an Obstruction). The reason for two versions of an EOW rule is based on the reality of fleet size, experience level, and shortness of time to perform the required communications to properly conduct a Rule 19 encounter (i.e. Boat A must type for room to tack at obstruction, Boat B must immediately evaluate, then either duck or type YOU TACK, boat A must then evaulate and excute a maneuver).In Tako Cup fleet races there will be an imaginary (or actual) line 20 meters from the edge of the EOW. All rules are turned off in that zone and any boat venturing into that zone does so at its own peril.In match races Rule 19 will be in force on the entire course and the EOW will be considered a continous obstruction. The same imaginary (or actual) line will be considered the last point at which a boat can hail for room to tack under Rule 19. Any boat inside that line before a SHOUT appears on a judge’s screen will be deemed to not have hailed in time and will not be accorded rights under rule 19 for the EOW.Most of these rules are illustrated in text, image, and video at the Starboards Yacht Club at Hollywood.Tako Cup Rules V1.0
August 14, 2007    

ARMCHAIR BINDER posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Racing Rules of Sailing in Second Life – RRSSL

ARMCHAIR BINDER

Racing Rules of Sailing in Second Life – RRSSL
 
10. Starboard Rights: Starboard boats have Right-Of-Way over Port Tack Boats
11. Leeward Rights: Leeward boats have Right-of-Way over Windward Boats
13. A boat has no Right-of-Way while tacking
16. When a Right-of-Way boat changes course, it shall give the other boat room to keep clear.
18. When overlapped, inside boats have Right-of-Way at marks, NOT including starting line marks.
19. A boat approaching an obstruction has Right-of-Way to tack or gybe.
 
Race Guidlines:

1. A Protest must be shouted.
2. A skipper that accepts a protest from another skipper shall acknowledge the acceptance of the foul by sailing clear of other boats and doing a 360 degree circle as soon as reasonably possible. A skipper who does not accept a protest can settle the protest immediately following the race with a protest hearing.
3. AVOIDING CONTACT: A boat shall avoid contact with another boat if reasonably possible.
However, a right-of-way boat or one entitled to room
(a) need not act to avoid contact until it is clear that the other boat is not keeping clear or giving room, and
(b) shall not be penalized under this rule unless there is contact that causes damage or injury.
(c) For purposes of right-of-way rulings, “damage” shall only consist of incidents
which fuse prims, eject crew, lose the race wind, disrupt physics continuity, or impair the functionality of a boat’s script sufficiently to require an object reset.
4. Do not edit your boat after raising your sail for a race.
5. Do not touch (i.e. edit) another person’s boat.
6. The race director will appoint a committee to hear any unresolved protests at time of the hearing. If a committee is not available to hear the protest then a hearing will be held publicly as soon as possible with results being tentative until such ruling.
7. At the discretion of the race director, attempts to “game” the rules can lead to disqualification. Gaming the rules is loosely defined as using the ruleset to violate the fundamental purpose of the ruleset, which is to create an environment where The purpose of rules are to keep boats sailing competitively and “safely”, not provide opportunities to win by other means than excellence in sailing skills.
8. Boats in a race shall raise sail before -1:45 minutes are left on the clock and not moor until after the race is completed. The skipper who activates the clock may be given minor leeway on this rule if he/she has difficulty starting the clock, getting in boat, and raising sail.
9. Good sportsmanship is more highly regarded that the ability to win at any cost. A boat and her owner shall compete in compliance with recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Penalty: potential reprimand by the race committee.
 
An Explanation of the Rules:
RIGHT-OF-WAY: A boat has right of way when another boat is required to keep clear of it.
10. Starboard boats have Right-Of-Way over Port Tack Boats
ISAF Rule 10: “ON OPPOSITE TACKS: When boats are on opposite tacks, a port-tack boat shall keep clear of a starboard-tack boat.”
Starboard boat= Sail hanging over the Port (Left) side of the boat with Wind coming from the Starboard (Right) side of the boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTyd1bJsZ4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fltYaJeChlY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOd1j47eCN0
11. Leeward boats have Right-of-Way over Windward Boats
A boat is Leeward up to head to wind (directly into the wind) at wind=0
ISAF Rule 11: “ON THE SAME TACK, OVERLAPPED-When boats are on the same tack and overlapped, a windward boat shall keep clear of a leeward boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ6uJuE2C_M
13. A boat has NO Right-of-Way while tacking
ISAF Rule 13: “WHILE TACKING: After a boat passes head to wind, she shall keep clear of other boats until she is on a close-hauled course. During that time rules 10, 11, and 12 do not apply. If two boats are subject to this rule at the same time, the one on the other’s port side or the one astern shall keep clear.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fltYaJeChlY
16. When a Right-of-Way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear.
If a boat is attempting to give you Right-of-Way, then a Protest may be unnecessary.
ISAF Rule 15 “ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY When a boat acquires right of way, she shall initially give the other
boat room to keep clear, unless she acquires right of way because of the other boat’s actions.”
ISAF Rule 16.1 “CHANGING COURSE: When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfYBXu_BKow
18. When overlapped, inside boats have Right-of-Way at marks, NOT including starting line marks.
ISAF Rule 18 “ROUNDING AND PASSING MARKS AND OBSTRUCTIONS:
In rule 18, room is room for an inside boat to round or pass between an outside boat and a mark or obstruction, including room to tack or gybe when either is a normal part of the manoeuvre.
18.1 When This Rule Applies
Rule 18 applies when boats are about to round or pass a mark they are required to leave on the same side, or an obstruction on the same side, until they have passed it. However, it does not apply
(a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or
(b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack.
18.2 Giving Room; Keeping Clear
(a) OVERLAPPED – BASIC RULE
When boats are overlapped the outside boat shall give the inside
boat room to round or pass the mark or obstruction, and if the
inside boat has right of way the outside boat shall also keep clear.
Other parts of rule 18 contain exceptions to this rule.
(b) OVERLAPPED AT THE ZONE
If boats were overlapped before either of them reached the twolength zone and the overlap is broken after one of them has reached it, the boat that was on the outside shall continue to give the other boat room. If the outside boat becomes clear astern or overlapped inside the other boat, she is not entitled to room and shall keep clear.
(c) NOT OVERLAPPED AT THE ZONE
If a boat was clear ahead at the time she reached the two-length
zone, the boat clear astern shall thereafter keep clear. If the boat
clear astern becomes overlapped outside the other boat, she shall
also give the inside boat room. If the boat clear astern becomes
overlapped inside the other boat, she is not entitled to room. If the
boat that was clear ahead passes head to wind, rule 18.2(c) no
longer applies and remains inapplicable.
(d) CHANGING COURSE TO ROUND OR PASS
When after the starting signal rule 18 applies between two boats
and the right-of-way boat is changing course to round or pass a
mark, rule 16 does not apply between her and the other boat.
(e) OVERLAP RIGHTS
If there is reasonable doubt that a boat obtained or broke an
overlap in time, it shall be presumed that she did not. If the outside
boat is unable to give room when an overlap begins, rules
18.2(a) and 18.2(b) do not apply.
18.3 Tacking at a Mark
If two boats were approaching a mark on opposite tacks and one of them completes a tack in the two-length zone when the other is fetching the mark, rule 18.2 does not apply. The boat that tacked
(a) shall not cause the other boat to sail above close-hauled to avoid her or prevent the other boat from passing the mark, and
(b) shall give room if the other boat becomes overlapped inside her, in which case rule 15 does not apply.
18.4 Gybing
When an inside overlapped right-of-way boat must gybe at a mark or obstruction to sail her proper course, until she gybes she shall sail no farther from the mark or obstruction than needed to sail that course.
18.5 Passing a Continuing Obstruction
While boats are passing a continuing obstruction, rules 18.2(b) and
18.2(c) do not apply. A boat clear astern that obtains an inside overlap is entitled to room to pass between the other boat and the obstruction only if at the moment the overlap begins there is room to do so. If there is not, she is not entitled to room and shall keep clear.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGAkOEsSTe0
19. A boat approaching an obstruction has Right-of-Way to tack or gybe.
 
 Last edited by Armchair Binder on Tue May 05, 2009 3:36 pm; edited 15 times in total
 

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Jane Fossett 2008 Fizz Cup Committee Discussion Thread:

“Over Early Issue”

An over-early controversy came up in a race in the Fizz Cup Silver Finals today. joepie Korobase crossed the line at 00:00. The line called her “Over Early” but the line recorded her start time. She did not return to re-cross the line. After completing the course, she received a finish time.
Jane Fossett was the official judge for this race. JF called joepie ‘over early’ and disqualified, but waited for the race to finish.
Although there was no official protest, the skippers involved in the race requested clarification.
The ‘over early’ issue is a known problem with the raceline. The line occasionally records -00:01 as a valid start, and – rarely – even shouts “over early” with a recorded start time of +00:01.
There are many discussions of how to handle this problem.

In December 2006 the SLSF Cup said:
9.5 OVER EARLY HAILS BY THE STARTING LINE
The SLSF starting shouts when it detects a boat crossing the line early. The starting line also will shout a boats starting time as a negative number for boats which have crossed the line early. To simplify race administration, we will treat the line’s hails of boats over early as correct. The I-flag rule is also in effect.
Any boat which is on the course side of the line within one minute of the start must re-round either end of the line to start properly. Thus – a hail by the line that a boat started at a negative time or that a boat is over early requires that she shall sail to the pre-start side of the line around either end before starting.
http://www.slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=291

In March 2007 there was an extended discussion of the issue with many people chiming in about it :
http://www.slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=579

In September 2007 MTW decided for the Tako Cup:
…The bottom line regarding the solution to the start line anomoly that we have used for a long time now is that, barring a ruling to the contrary by the race committee, if the line reports you over early at the time you cross the line then you are over early regardless of the time recorded by the line. And if you are given a start time of -00:00:01 but are not called over early then you have started legally. …
http://www.slsailing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1255

This issue was actually discussed by several people involved in planning the Rules for the World Fizz Competition. JF’s understanding is that Bea Woodget agreed judges will use the Tako Cup Rules as guidelines for decisions in the Fizz Cup that were not directly covered by Fizz Cup Rules.

With that in mind, in the present case JF called joepie korobase disqualified because JK was ‘over early’ as determined by the raceline ‘shout.’ Before the race was completed, JF requested Bea Woodget appeal that decision. Bea agreed, and MarkTwain White was the appeal judge. MTW also determined joepie Korobase was DSQ for ‘over early’ by the Rules.
Bea Woodget has the final decision in Rules matters for all the Fizz Cup Races. She agreed with JF and MTW that JK was DSQ for the above reasons.

2 Responses to Race Rules

  1. Pensive Mission

    “The ‘over early’ issue is a known problem with the raceline. The line occasionally records -00:01 as a valid start, and – rarely – even shouts “over early” with a recorded start time of +00:01.”

    Is the “solution” to this still to let the start line hail of “over early” take precedence? I’m sorry to be blunt, but this is silly. It might be the only possible solution *if* the hail were the only data available, but it is clearly not. The recorded start time may also be off, but it makes more sense to me to use that as the determiner of what time a boat starts than the (occasionally suspect) derived item of the start line hailing. If the recorded time is off by several seconds, then all race results including finishing times are suspect, a situation I think most of us would prefer to ignore. Personally, I never get to the line before +0:10, but if I did manage to get better and my reward for hitting it perfectly were to be disqualified, I would be, to put it mildly, miffed.

  2. Woot Pensive!
    I’ve taken a day to reply,
    to give others a chance to read your post and respond.
    My personal response is that:
    1: At most current racelines this is no longer an issue; as I recall, Cynthia Centaur fixed this problem with her update to Kanker’s raceline.
    2: Having said that, it’s my understanding that Hay Ah and Yuu Nakamichi both fixed this problem in their current line updates.
    3: Pensive brings up a major issue however. The options to grow sailing on mainland are severely restricted, due to the limits imposed by ‘racing’ there.

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